This ammunition is clearly of the highest quality and they are lubricating the bullets, see picture below. 308 subsonic (apparently used by police and military in Europe) which has a 200 grain FMJ with a ring of lube around the ogive, see picture below. The reason you see a lot of 300 black out is because it was made for subsonic use. Bullet, Powder Manufacturer, Powder, Charge 190, Hornady Sub-X Hodgdon, Benchmark, Subscribe Remarks: Pressure (psi). Remember to test you powder loads in reverse. 308 subsonic projectiles just what you are looking for. I would say that, at great expense, I purchased some RUAG factory. And the link he gave you has great expanding. If youre hunting or shooting LR, maybe faster is better. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes Accurate - 2230: 130 gr. Some say lube and some say not needed especially with copper jackets. With a Savage Striker 308 Win pistol, Simmons 2-6 scope at 6X, 100 yards, 314299 200 gr., 17/IMR4227 in 8 5-shot groups averaged 1.916'. Current loads are with Trailboss and 150 and 170 gr 30-30 bullets RN flat base. So what is the answer, drill or not drill, magnum primers or small rifle? Re: Subsonic 308 loads with Unique 168 gr J4 9 gr of unique super sonic 8 gr worked the best 7 gr was 870 fps Load the HPBT backwards to an OAL of 2.285' This uses up a lot of case capacity also sub sonic it will fly very well and it stable. The concern here being powder lying in the case and not being detonated quickly/equally and the issues that will bring, is this still the case with a dense powder like Tin Star. Ranging from drilling out the primer holes and using Magnum primers to not drilling out and using small rifle primers. Load wise I appreciate to start high and work down with no Moderator on and try and achieve around 950-980 FPS presuming the Moderator may add around 50FPS when fitted. Thoughts on these powders much appreciated. I am favouring Tin Star as it appears the most dense by far if not equal to Trailboss a good second. I can however purchase VihtaVouri N32C (Tin Star), N310 or RedDot. The first issue I have here in Europe is that I cannot buy Trailboss which is clearly the favourite for subsonic reloading due to burn rate and density. I plan to use Lapua Brass with Lapua Subsonic 308 200GRN FMJBT. This round will also function with semi auto platforms, but will require manual cycling of actions. This load is intended for short barrel (<20) bolt action rifles with 1:10 or faster twist barrels. I would greatly appreciate some input from the forum from people who have a lot more experience in these matters than I do. The Discreet Ballistics 308 Win Selous Subsonic Hunting load was conceived as part of a two load system. 308 Subsonic reloading (or subsonic centrefire generally). New to the Forum, great place to be with some superb forums, pleased to be part of it.
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